SagePvP definitely has potential but as people have stated, the HCF community isn't really large anymore and there are so many servers, servers use to hit a lot of players because there were not 100 different HCF servers. Also, a lot of ViperHCF's player base are spanish from PatroxWarez, people don't seem to see how many views and subscribers Patrox gets. I don't think SagePvP will ever consistently get 1000 players because our HCF community just isn't large enough. People always say that Kohi closing made the community die but I feel like it isn't true. Kohi closing caused new servers to come out left and right which definitely separated our community. Just my opinion and a few thoughts!